
Merrill Lynch & Co Chief Executive John Thain has suggested to directors that he get a 2008 bonus of as much as $10 million, but the battered company's compensation committee is resisting his request, the Wall Street Journal said, citing people familiar with the situation.
His argument for the bonus is, "it could have been worse!"
The "Compensation Committee" will compromise and offer him 9 million then keep $100,000 each for themselves and they will all laugh all the way to the bank.
Just watch.
If they give the @ss the money, we should boycott BofA and ML. I am not going to be doing business with any of them.
That gives MY MONEY to these bloated pigs.
How many jobs could have been saved with $10 million? Roughly 200 jobs in my opinion (35k a year plus training and benefits).
This guy is such a tool!
My thing with this is..Bank of America got 25 billion or so of the bailout to the banks and other financial companys......why would ANY CEO of any company get a bonus...no CEO or exective should be getting a bonus if they received any tax payer money.....if their committee gives this guy a bonus of any kind, they need to go too.
This should include our representatives too, they surely have not done their jobs, its time for them to get a cut in pay also . They sure don't mind telling everyone else they are making too much
Giving him the compensation is easy. All they have to do is find 10 million people who are willing to give him $1.
I thought bonusus were given as a reward for good, successful, profitable work? Did their business not fail?
JUST ANOTHER REASON WHY THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE PUTTING MONEY INTO BUSINESSES! We will be crying the same tears when the big three go under after we have given them a bunch of money. No one would be so personally invested in this if it wasn't our tax money in there! No more bailouts, then we as individual consumers choose what we do with our own money. If you want to invest in a company that supports these big CEO bonuses, it is your right. NO MORE BAILOUTS!!!
He wants a bonus for him running his Co. into the ground? He is running the Co. He is responsible for it being in trouble. And he wants a bonus for that? I didn't save enough money when I was raising my Kids as a single Mom, with no help from their Dad, by the way, could someone send me a couple of million $ to supplement my SS? Give me a break!!!!!
If they give this greedy SOB a 10M or even 1M bonus, I am switching from ML and BA to my mattress!! this guy should be tossed in the street.... how much are the taxpayers supposed to pay these greedy, incompetents??
Weaning these greedheads off their milk and honey pacifier provided by taxpayers they could care less about is a difficult thing. The poor guy might go into appoplexy if he can't have his new private jet this year. And, let's not forget that wifie dearest can't do without her annual Hope diamond sized dinner ring so when she eats her foi gras and drinks her Remy Martin from her Swarovski flute, she won't look like Second Hand Rose.
Greedheads never do recognize greed. It's part of their DNA.
The Senators are suggesting the CEO of GM to step down. It is time to DEMAND all of these financial CEO's be fired in exchange for not taking them to jail. Do not pass Go and Do not collect any bonuses!
Bank of America needs to go or be taken over by the government. They rip off their account holders by putting 'holds' on their deposits (to use the money for a while) keeping the person from withdrawing that money. They dictate how the people will be allowed to use their own money. Apparently, BofA isn't lending any of the money.
Blah, blah, blah. Fire his useless ass with no bonus and no severance pay.
A hobo off the streets could run a company into the ground just as well for little or no pay.
I agree, fire the worthless Greedy S.O.B. with no compensation, I am sure he still have plenty of millions hide away. There are NO C.E.O.s that deserve that kind of money.
This shows how out of touch these big shots are. In my world I would have been fired for such incompetence but this arrogant a** is sure that he is entitled.
Give him ten years instead!
The nerve ! You are fired !
UNBELIEVEABLE NERVE!!!!! I don't know about all of you, but I feel like I am getting the Royal Screw on a daily basis lately!
I agree with giving him 10 years. It is a crime what has happened to with this country because of greed.
Any company giving out executive bonuses should automatically forfeit the gov't money. That should have been part of the package to begin with, that they only got the money IF no bonuses or perks were paid. These companies should go out of business like any other smaller company. If they can't budget and stay profitable, we shouldn't be bailing them out. The government isn't doing this for all the smaller businesses that go under every day.
I agree that if these companies give out bonuses, everyone that has an account there, should pull them and go do business elsewhere.
are you kidding me??? when will this stop....maybe when the economy is completely in a depression. somebody needs to be policing these jack a---ss---es. they drain a company dry and the poor working man bails them out with money he'll never see again!!!!
I can barely stand to read this article it angers me so much!!!!!! How about 10 million people pony up $1.00 each to have this guy ________. (Use you imagination)
He didn't try hard enough. LOL
All I can say is Unbelievable! At my company I would have been fired a long time ago.
The word anger does no justice to how this makes me feel, but I felt I had to write something as I read the posts below.
I feel like we're all on one team and monsters like this CEO are on the other.
We truly live in two different worlds. People like this CEO believe all should suffer except for him and his loved ones. I'm sure he's been responsible for thousands of people losing their jobs, but he feels he's above that and should be given millions for his failure.
I can only hope he will get what he truly deserves some day. I guess we're too dumb to have jobs where we can be overpaid by millions, do a horrible job and expect even more pay! I'm depressed!!!!!!
What an IDIOT! This guy needs to be FIRED?
Can we fire and jail Schumer, Pelosi, Reid, and the others Dems (In Congress and Out) that ran Fannie and Freddie into the ground while pulling an Enrons and making millions as well? Can we fire and jail all the Dems for passing regulations that these banks had to follow to give bad loans to people to buy houses that could not afford them or the payback of the loans?
I am all for firing an idiot greedy CEO's.. I just want you to be fair since the Libs have turned this into such an anti-business atmosphere and only trust us.. the democrat governement..so can we fire and jail them as well? (Oh and Obama had his hands in Fannie...so does that mean we get to fire and jail him too?) Just trying to stay balanced...
Chief Executive John Thain should be fired and receive no bonus. This should become the new policy for all companies that are run so poorly (receive no bonus, no stock options, etc). Â Â
toastee: Once again, the CRA did not require banks to give money to people that were not qualified. It required lenders to not turn down a QUALIFIED borrower because of race. The CRA does not nor has it ever apply to private mortgage companies. The only thing holding a gun to the private mortgage companies was greed. They gathered as many signers as they could, good or bad risk, then bundled up the mortgages and sold them.
Many of the things you mention happened on Republican watch, with a Republican controlled house, senate and executive branch. Denial doesn't change facts, and you can't rewrite history, no matter how hard you try.
Get over it. Obama will be the next president. Now can we move on to something else for a while?
Hit the ignore button on that person they only post superfluous bs anyway not worth reading. Uts the right wing Blame Pelosi Ried and the libs line over and over like someone is going to believe that they are the cause of this guy asking for 10 million.
If this guy deserves a bonus so doe GW and that is out there.
Maybe without him and his management team THINGS WOULD HAVE TURNED OUT BETTER. He's got a lot of guts to ask for ANY bonus.
Learn to live within your means....'new' means!
First they need to fire this arrogant CEO who has not earned anything.
Next we the people need to stop doing business with these compaines and make our voice strong and heard.
When that 10 million can be put into investments and then used to finance healthcare for a community? It is that this man has no more value to anyone than a piece of dirt on the floor. He has less value than a teacher that forms the educational abilities and knowledge base of our children, less value than a waitress that works on her feet all day to pay the rent, less value than a soldier out on a field putting his life out there for his country and I could go on on and on. Pay this executive for his 'value' which is 0.00, then sweep him out the door.
It actually could have been worse. I know the Hate-o-rade is mighty tasty, but perhaps we should consider the fact that Thain didn't create the mess at Merrill, he was brought in to clean it up. The primary culprit in this debacle is Thain's predecessor Stanley O'Neal, who was taking the company plane to play golf on Martha's Vineyard while it was imploding. O'Neal "retired" with a package totalling $160 million. Ironically, the board that is struggling with whether to pay the Thain bonus is the very same bunch who gave O'Neal that huge package. They share responsibility for helping bring the American financial system to its knees.
Thanks for the information. I did not know this. O'Neal and the generous board need to face retribution for the pitiful mess they created. How can such packages be justified? Where is the regulation of this? What makes O'Neal or any other CEO worth that much money? Knowledge is knowledge, but unless it is coupled with integrity and talent it means nothing. If one gets 160 million to destroy a company, what does one get to build it into a strong ethical entity of conscience and productivity?
I think they should show him the door. God these rich people don't get it the money and days of big money should be gone. What does he do to earn it nothing not like his company is doing well get real.
The only reason these boards of directors are giving pause to his bonus is because they've been shamed into it. Asking for money for poor job performance that contributes to national bankruptcy finally registers in their greedhead brains as stupid. The DUH factor is alive and well.
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I guess just having a job isn't enough?
Having a job that probably already pays him at least 10 million a year......
What a horse's hind end....... he needs a $10 million bonus - I'll give him $10!
$10.00 and kick in the (south end of his northbound mule) out the door.
They sould ask for money back from him.
I just emailed BofA, on their site. I told them that if they give this clown (didn't use that word..lol) a bonus of 1 million, much less 10, I am taking my $ out of BA, will encourage anyone else to do likewise and close my ML 401k and move it... what's left of it, anyway.
By all of us mailing, phoning and just plain screaming to any/all of these companies, and our congressmen/senators, is why Congress did not jump to bail out the big 3, and put the skids to any AIG, et al, bonuses, trips, etc....
" . . . Both companies continue to operate independently until shareholder and
standard regulatory approvals have been received and the transaction
closes, which is expected to occur in the first quarter of 2009.
Currently, there has been no decision to pay any additional monies that
are being requested."
This is the reply I got from Bank of America when I mailed them and said I was not a happy camper about this lunacy 10 million compensation for the incompetent who is demanding it....Something tells me I was not the first to email about this guy's demand. I am guessing their reference to "both companies" meaning BA and Merrill.....
Good to know greed is alive and ell. $crew the rest of us!
They already did. In record time too. Maybe that's was part of their performance appraisal. Screw their country, count their bonuses and then beg for more, more, more?
He's got to be kidding! It just goes to show how out of touch folks like him really are. Three cheers to the compensation committee for standing their ground. He needs to be shown the door and told "don't let it hit you on the way out".
we all need to call our senators and congresspeople and let them know there are no more free rides . enough is enough
We tried that....twice.....they dismissed us out of hand. So, here we go again!
Actually, they [Congress] stopped the bailout the first time around. It was only after more Pork was added for the benefit of the fence-sitting representatives that it passed the second time.
Who are you gonna call... Reid, Pelosis, or schumer and other Dems? They all had their hands in running Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into the ground while making millions in bonuses and "campaign contributions" Just wondering who we should call and complain to is all...and if they did the same thing (while chiding "wall Street") will they listen?
Billy and Lexie
I have e-mailed my senators several times about the bailouts and told them of my opposition.
I also reminded them that they must return home to run for reelection sooner or later. If they choose not to listen, then they may have problems come election time.
They ignore us at their peril.
J. W.-
I did the same, and only 1 of our reps voted twice against it....he's been reelected, and seems to be the only guy who will actually talk to his constituents on the phone....good to know the elected reps are as p***ed off as we are.
Lexie
They will have lots of questions to answer when they come home to campaign for reelection.
The notion that millions of auto related working people will suddenly be out of work is nonsense in my opinion. Yet that is what my senator cited as one reason for bailing out the auto makers. But she also wants certain guarantees from them. Fine, who is going to monitor them and make sure they will do what they say with our money?
The notion that millions of auto related working people will suddenly be out of work is nonsense in my opinion.
Even more nonsense when you consider that Ford, GM, and Diamler AG could fire everyone and this number would only be a little over half a million worldwide.
But that's only their immediate employees, you conveniemtly forget the suppliers, dealers, contracted support (cleaning, food service etc...) and so on. Figure 500,000 times 3-4 and you get a better idea of the total unemployment. Oh, and don't say the the Japanese will pick up the slack, THEY are going to their government for help as well, as are the auto makers in Germany, Sweden, Britain, S Korea and China.
Wow peoples greed never ceases to amaze me. $10 million bonus how about donating some of his income to the people that need it?
Think of the people that 10 mil would help.Think of what one could do. This man is proof that the execs of the companies have nothought for anyone but their own plush lifestyles. I curse them all to spend the rest of their lives eating at soup kitchens and sleeping on steam grates.
Yeah, like that is gonna happen!
This is the same conservative greedhead who'd whine about having to pay more of his income to taxes simply because he earns more. Then, out comes the same old, same old mantra: All of the people his taxes feed and clothe because they don't work....Sure they don't....He sold their jobs to the black marketers in Thailand, China and India.
This is an old story. "Are there no work houses? Are there no prisons?' That's the answer we get when confronting a Fat Cat who is paid far more than he/she is worth. Scrouge lives on today.
The company went down the tubes, people lost their jobs and this guy wants a bonus. No way! I'm with Anniek . . . show him the door.
You have got to be kidding me! I'm still stuck with ARS that his firm sold me. He should be convicted of fraud and sent to prison!
Hang the dumb bastard.
LET THEM EAT CAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like that, i saw the painting on the wall a couple of weeks back visiting a friend of mine in NYC. "LET THEM EAT CRACK!!!!"
Why the disparent treatment between the fiancial companies and the Big Three. We need to call all CEO's out on the carpet. Lets see what he is doing for the 10 million. And wonder why this country is in the state it is. Unreal unreal
Don't forget to add the politicians from both parties to that list. Their greed has also helped to create a lot of the issues we are now forced to deal with.
thinking like this is what made the republican party's 47 years worth of nixon bush philosophy work please get off the fence and stand up for what the real problems are in this country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ewent: off topic. No need to get into a political flamewar here.
Rusty, it was the Dems who were in charge of businesses and policies that we are dealing with right now.. don't blame the GOP, they tried in 2004 to head this off but the Dem Congress dismissed them.
Congress wasn't controlled by Dems in 2004. Nice try blaming Dems but .......
Sorry, toastie it was the repubs that Fannie and Freddie bribed and it was repub supply side BS since ronny raygun that has got us into this mess. I mean, really, if you give rich people they'll build factories and stuff because......., what a load of crap, and old crap at that. This was repub policy in the 1920's and look what that gave us.
OMG!!!!
The height of being a horses a$$....take him out back and .....
wonder how many execs from these "troubled" businesses are getting bonuses and we don't know about it...so much for our $$$$
--the pigs are alive and well
If the man was doing is job correctly, the company wouldn't have been in a situation that requires diversion. This man needs to be fired. You're fired! Obviously, he is not thinking in the best interest of the company. Maybe he doesn't think $10M is a lot, but I am sure it can save thousands of jobs and be used to further improve company operations.
I agree with some of the other comments, when will these idiots realize that they are the ones that caused this finanancial mess, and that they should be facing fraud charges and be in jail. Hopefully the days of big money and greed are finally over at Wall St. firms, and the sooner the better.
It is about as obscene as it can get !!!!!
My 401k is w/ ML and lost more than 30% of its value , and this greedy basterd wants a bonus of 10 million ! Give me a break! Show him the door !!!!
Greed never subsides, it only grows !!
$10 million bonus ?? My parents can not even affort a Christmas this year after they saw how much they have lost. And all their retirement money are managed by Merrill Lynch. My father said he had better left all his money under his matt....
He must be kidding right? Have these executives learned nothing over the last few months? He needs to be shown the door immediately with no golden parachute either.
What an a$$hole !!!!!!
OK. Merrill Lynch was on brink of bankruptcy when merger announced. BofA was given bailout money. Jobs lost on both sides and MANY more set to go once merger takes place. Now he wants $10M bonus for all this? I agree w/all of you. NO WAY !! I hope the comp committee will stand its ground.
Thain does not deserve a bonus, the company was not profitable this last year. Yes, he was part of the team that put together the deal to sell ML to BofA, but then, that is part of his job. He ran the company into the ground and then wants credit for finding a buyer? If he is given a bonus, then we should all be suing the Board.
If you are a Stockholder, you have a responsibility to sue him and the board over thismess.
Who in the world does this idiot think he is?
If you thought the Big 3 auto CEO's didn't have a clue because the used private jets to fly to DC this guy is worse because he's had time to see the firestorm of criticism that was leveled; justifyably, against them.
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